Rapport & Frame
Target: 0:00 โ 5:00 ยท Set the tone, lock in collaborative frame
First 5 minutes. Brief small talk, then immediately set the frame. Goal is making them feel like this is a collaborative conversation, not a sales pitch. End with two micro-commitments ("sound fair" + "cool").
Open
"Hey [name] โ Moody. How you doing today?"
[Brief small talk โ 60 seconds MAX.]
[Brief small talk โ 60 seconds MAX.]
Set the Frame
"Cool. So before we dive in, let me set the frame for the next 45 minutes so we're both on the same page.
This isn't a pitch call. I'm not going to spend 45 minutes convincing you trading is worth it. You already know โ you wouldn't have applied otherwise.
What we're actually doing today is figuring out three things:
One โ where you are right now.
Two โ where you're actually trying to go.
Three โ whether The Family Den is the right next step to bridge those two things.
If it is, I'll lay out exactly what enrollment looks like and we can decide on the call. If it's not, I'll tell you that too.
Sound fair?"
[They say yes.]
This isn't a pitch call. I'm not going to spend 45 minutes convincing you trading is worth it. You already know โ you wouldn't have applied otherwise.
What we're actually doing today is figuring out three things:
One โ where you are right now.
Two โ where you're actually trying to go.
Three โ whether The Family Den is the right next step to bridge those two things.
If it is, I'll lay out exactly what enrollment looks like and we can decide on the call. If it's not, I'll tell you that too.
Sound fair?"
[They say yes.]
Honesty Ask
"One thing I'd ask before we start โ be honest with me. About the money side, about the doubts, about what you've been carrying that maybe you haven't said out loud to anyone yet. That's where the real conversation lives. Cool?"
[Yes.]
"Alright โ let's get into it."
[Yes.]
"Alright โ let's get into it."
โก Power Move
"Sound fair?" and "Cool?" are micro-commitment locks (Cialdini). Each yes increases the likelihood of a yes at the close. Don't skip them.
Discovery / Diagnosis
Target: 5:00 โ 20:00 ยท You listen 80%, talk 20%
The most important phase. Don't pitch. Ask. Listen. Take notes verbatim โ their exact words feed the prescription script automatically.
Q1 โ Why Now
"Walk me through what made today the day you decided to apply. What's been going on in your life that made trading something you wanted to get serious about โ not just think about?"
Listen for: specific emotional trigger (job loss, family pressure, money fear).
Q2 โ Current State
"Where are you at with trading right now? Walk me through it โ what you've tried, what's been working, what hasn't."
Listen for: experience level, profitability, time in markets.
Q3 โ Pain Underneath โก
"When you think about your trading right now, what's the part that's been weighing on you most? Not the technical stuff โ the part keeping you up."
Listen for: REAL pain. Write the EXACT words they use.
Q4 โ Cost of Staying Still โก
"If nothing changes โ and I mean nothing โ and you're sitting here a year from now in the same spot, what does that cost you? Financially, sure. But also in your marriage, with your kids, in how you feel about yourself."
Agitation question. Don't put words in their mouth โ make them say it.
Q5 โ The Vision โก
"Flip it. 12 months from now you've cracked this. You're consistently profitable. Walk me through a normal Tuesday."
Listen for specifics: time, income, family. Where does their energy lift?
Q6 โ What's Stopping Them โก
"Between where you are and where you want to be โ there's a gap. What do YOU think has been keeping you from closing it on your own?"
They self-diagnose. Whatever they say IS what TFD solves.
Q7 โ What They've Tried
"What have you tried so far to fix this? Other programs, communities, courses, anything?"
Note what they've burned out on. Don't trash competitors.
Transition / Trial Close
Target: 20:00 โ 23:00 ยท Replay their words ยท Get commitment
Pivot from listening to prescribing. Replay their pain, vision, and gap in their own words. Then trial close โ get them to commit they'd do the work if shown the path.
Mirror Their Words
"Okay โ I want to play back what I'm hearing, just to make sure I'm getting this right.
You've been [their current state]. You've tried [what they've tried]. What's actually been keeping you stuck is [their self-diagnosed gap]. And what you actually want is [their vision]. The cost of staying where you are isn't just money โ it's [emotional cost].
Did I get that right?"
[They say yes. Or they correct you โ even better, now they're engaged.]
You've been [their current state]. You've tried [what they've tried]. What's actually been keeping you stuck is [their self-diagnosed gap]. And what you actually want is [their vision]. The cost of staying where you are isn't just money โ it's [emotional cost].
Did I get that right?"
[They say yes. Or they correct you โ even better, now they're engaged.]
โก The Trial Close (do not skip)
"Okay. One more thing before I show you what we'd actually do together.
If I could show you a path where, over the next 90 days, you closed that gap โ for real โ and you knew exactly what to do every single trading day, would you be the kind of person who'd actually follow through? Or would you find a reason to back out?"
[If they say "I'd follow through" โ green light. If they hesitate: "What would make you back out?" โ address the objection NOW, before you pitch.]
If I could show you a path where, over the next 90 days, you closed that gap โ for real โ and you knew exactly what to do every single trading day, would you be the kind of person who'd actually follow through? Or would you find a reason to back out?"
[If they say "I'd follow through" โ green light. If they hesitate: "What would make you back out?" โ address the objection NOW, before you pitch.]
โก Why This Works
You're getting them to commit out loud that they'd actually do the work. Now when you prescribe, they can't say "I'm not ready" without contradicting themselves. Hormozi's trial close โ locks the close before you've even pitched.
Prescription / The Offer
Target: 23:00 โ 35:00 ยท Map their pain to your solution ยท Anchor on recommended tier
Pitch using THEIR language, mapped to THEIR problems. Capital budget at top determined the recommended tier. Click each pain point dropdown to deliver the matching solution.
โก Recommended Tier (based on their budget)
Select capital budget at top to see recommendation
Pick their answer from the dropdown above to auto-select the right tier and personalize the pitch.
Lead In
"Okay [name]. Here's what I think the right move is for you. Let me walk you through The Family Den โ but I'm only going to talk about the parts that solve the specific things you just said."
Click whichever pain point they raised in Discovery. The matching solution opens โ deliver it in their language.
"I don't have a real system"
"You said you don't have a real system โ and that's the biggest leak in your trading right now.
The WLR System is what we use inside The Family Den. Six conditions have to align before a trade is valid. The charts are pre-marked daily by me โ you open your platform and the analysis is done.
No emotional entries. No guessing. The system decides, you execute."
The WLR System is what we use inside The Family Den. Six conditions have to align before a trade is valid. The charts are pre-marked daily by me โ you open your platform and the analysis is done.
No emotional entries. No guessing. The system decides, you execute."
"I'm too emotional / I keep changing strategies"
"You said you keep changing strategies and you trade emotionally. That's the #1 reason 95% of retail traders blow up.
The reason WLR fixes that is because the system is binary โ either six conditions align or they don't. There's nothing to second-guess.
Within 30 days, the emotion gets engineered out of your trading."
The reason WLR fixes that is because the system is binary โ either six conditions align or they don't. There's nothing to second-guess.
Within 30 days, the emotion gets engineered out of your trading."
"I'm doing this alone"
"You said you're doing this alone. That's actually the biggest thing The Family Den fixes.
200+ Christians inside. Daily live trading where you watch me take real trades โ wins and losses, no highlight reel. Weekly group calls. Private community.
Plus you have direct 1-on-1 access to me. You text me, I respond. That's not part of a higher tier โ that's just what this is."
200+ Christians inside. Daily live trading where you watch me take real trades โ wins and losses, no highlight reel. Weekly group calls. Private community.
Plus you have direct 1-on-1 access to me. You text me, I respond. That's not part of a higher tier โ that's just what this is."
Map to their vision (Q5)
"You said what you actually want is [their vision].
That's what this is built for. Not 'I made money trading once.' Consistent, repeatable profitability that supports the life you just described.
The 90-day timeline isn't marketing โ that's how long it takes for the system to become muscle memory."
That's what this is built for. Not 'I made money trading once.' Consistent, repeatable profitability that supports the life you just described.
The 90-day timeline isn't marketing โ that's how long it takes for the system to become muscle memory."
Use their cost-of-inaction (Q4)
"And remember what you said earlier โ the cost of staying where you are isn't just money. It's [their cost].
That's the real number on the table here. Not the investment. The cost of not deciding."
That's the real number on the table here. Not the investment. The cost of not deciding."
"I don't have enough experience"
"That's actually the best position to be in. You don't have bad habits to unlearn.
The WLR System was built so a Christian with zero experience can follow it. Six conditions tell you when. Pre-marked charts tell you where. The system does the thinking โ you execute.
Plus you have me. You're not figuring it out alone."
The WLR System was built so a Christian with zero experience can follow it. Six conditions tell you when. Pre-marked charts tell you where. The system does the thinking โ you execute.
Plus you have me. You're not figuring it out alone."
๐ฐ The Guarantee (deliver verbatim)
"And here's how serious I am about this. The guarantee is consistent profitability in 90 days โ or I keep coaching you for free until you're there.
That's not a money-back guarantee. Money-back means I take your money, fail you, and hand it back. My guarantee means I don't stop coaching you when the calendar says 90 days. I stop when you're actually profitable.
That's the level of skin in the game I have."
That's not a money-back guarantee. Money-back means I take your money, fail you, and hand it back. My guarantee means I don't stop coaching you when the calendar says 90 days. I stop when you're actually profitable.
That's the level of skin in the game I have."
Price Reveal
"Investment ranges from $2,500 to $10,000 depending on the depth of program that makes sense for where you are. Three tiers โ let me walk you through them."
โก Anchor Back to Recommended Tier
"But honestly โ for where you are right now, what you described, this tier is built for you. Then move to Close."
The Close
Target: 35:00 โ 45:00 ยท Ask ยท Wait ยท Convert hesitation to a real answer
Don't fill the silence. Ask the question, wait. Whoever talks first loses. Route based on what they say.
โก The Close Question
"So that's the program. That's the guarantee. That's the investment.
Does this feel like the right move for you, [name]?"
[WAIT. Do not fill the silence.]
Does this feel like the right move for you, [name]?"
[WAIT. Do not fill the silence.]
๐ข If They Say YES
"Awesome. Let me grab my laptop and get you enrolled right now. Two minutes."
Send payment link via Stripe/GHL. Stay on the line until payment confirms.
"Welcome to The Family Den. Here's what happens next..."
Walk through onboarding.
Send payment link via Stripe/GHL. Stay on the line until payment confirms.
"Welcome to The Family Den. Here's what happens next..."
Walk through onboarding.
๐ก If They Say "Let Me Think About It"
Do NOT just let them go. This is where most calls die.
"Totally fair. Before you do โ can I ask what specifically you want to think about? I want to make sure I'm not leaving you with bad information."
Listen for the REAL objection. Almost always Price, Spouse, or Timing. Click the objection in the right sidebar for the rebuttal.
"Totally fair. Before you do โ can I ask what specifically you want to think about? I want to make sure I'm not leaving you with bad information."
Listen for the REAL objection. Almost always Price, Spouse, or Timing. Click the objection in the right sidebar for the rebuttal.
๐ด If They Say NO
"Totally respect that. Can I ask what specifically didn't land? Just so I'm clear on whether it's a fit issue or a timing issue."
If truly not a fit โ honor it. If it's price or fear disguised as 'not for me' โ address once, gently, let go.
"Okay โ I appreciate the honesty. Door's not closed. If anything shifts in the next few months, shoot me a text. You have my number."
If truly not a fit โ honor it. If it's price or fear disguised as 'not for me' โ address once, gently, let go.
"Okay โ I appreciate the honesty. Door's not closed. If anything shifts in the next few months, shoot me a text. You have my number."
โก Non-Negotiable Rule
After "Does this feel like the right move?" โ SHUT UP.
Count to 10 in your head. First to speak loses. They will either commit or surface the real objection. The silence is your friend.
Count to 10 in your head. First to speak loses. They will either commit or surface the real objection. The silence is your friend.
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